Many conservatives enraged over Obama school speech – CNN.com


Many conservatives enraged over Obama school speech – CNN.comli.

Allow me to put everyone’s mind at rest, who thinks that giving the youth of this nation a privileged opportunity to listen to their elected leader will result in them will falling  prey to some hidden agenda and policies bereft of morality.

I was one of the school kids “forced” to witness Reagan speaking when he addressed the youthful set in his time in office, and I have never thought it was ok to sell arms to Sadaam, and I have never been tempted to set a social class system that relegates 80% of my fellow citizens to poverty, and I have never, ever attempted to choose profit over peace or degrade humanity by dispensing with their free will for religious bent agendas of what life means to a fetus while I killed babies in the Middle East. Ever. I have never thought those were righteous actions.

So, no worries. Even if Obama is evil, that doesn’t mean kids won’t see right through him. Just like they will you, all of you hollering socialism this and death panel that.

Kids can see bullshit from a mile away. Obama won’t fool them, and you won’t either.

So. Let it be what it is. A president reaching out to youth encouraging them to be responsible for themselves, their educations and their futures. Have faith in them to know what is right and wrong. But the more you argue, the more you puff up, the more you tell them to look away, the more they will seek Obama out, if not just for idle curiosity.

Hem and haw all you want. The bigger you make it, the bigger it becomes. And thank you.

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About Janis Alanis

Thinker, BS detector, champion of Reason. Unafraid. Ticked off, and riled up. View all posts by Janis Alanis

17 responses to “Many conservatives enraged over Obama school speech – CNN.com

  • 12stepgolf

    See all the left is missing the point. The knee jerk reaction of the left is legendary. They accuse us of not knowing the facts and criticize the citizens for reacting.
    The Education Dept. put out an agenda that was to be followed by the teachers. This is the issue. “How can I help the president with his agenda?”. It has nothing to with telling the kids to stay in school and study hard.
    Then that video about pledging allegiance to Obama-I never pledged allegiance to any president ever and will never. This cult of personality the left clings to is what is obnoxious and disgusting, we are a country and we want to protect the country for everyone. The cultists just want to protect its leader and damn the country.

    • Janis Alanis

      I am laughing so hard milk is coming out of my nose and I have not had milk in days…

      “The left is missing the point.”
      First, I am not a “leftie”, but if ANYONE is guilty of a knee jerk reaction it is this hullaballoo from the conservative wingnuts, which, by the way, is LEGENDARY. “They” accuse “you” of not knowing the facts, and you prove “them” right by repeatedly misquoting the president.
      When you say that the president says, “How can you kids help me with my agenda” rather than taking the context of the speech in regards to the actual purpose of lowering drop out rates, and promoting and encouraging success in school age children, then what responsibility do you take in the jaw dropping over reaction by the people stirring this argument on? Is it that you are so obtuse you do not see the error in your misunderstanding of what is being said? If so, I hardly think you are one to be justifying or vilifying anyone.
      The fact that you have never pledged allegiance to any president and you lack the understanding of what the pledge of allegiance is, makes me wonder why you even care about education and if you ever went to school at all.

      And finally, the regurgitation of this whole “cult of personality” bit when we were swamped by the plague of Bush, a man people admittedly voted for because he was someone who they could have a beer with, who in turn, demolished America’s reputation and financial stability, well, I doubt you will understand my point, but trust me, you are building a house of cards on sand. At least this new cult of personality is educated, smart and trying to do what is right.
      People like you do not wish to protect the country for everyone, just a select few so you can hide in your caves, and stare at the shadows on the wall. (See Plato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave)
      It is your greatest obstacle to align yourself so self righteously with any “side”. Think for yourself. Quit rehashing talking points. Listen to what people say, before you judge them, even Obama.

      Maybe he is just saying study hard, maybe he is saying be a socialist (he’s not). But you don’t seem to know, because you went straight to ‘leftist’ this, and ‘cultist’ that. So unoriginal and banal, yet comical, so thanks.
      And, you’re welcome.
      Thanks for visiting… see ya laters.

  • Janis Alanis

    Your brouhaha about Obama only makes kids more interested to find out about him. Their rebellious instincts will draw them to him.They will look at him for guidance while the ‘enraged’ parents fight to censor him. And when they find out you are lying, they will never trust you again. Your reactions are the best thing that could happen for Obama. Kids love what their parents hate. Good luck with that.

    I would like to finally add, especially in regards to your statement that the ‘left liberals have a long history of knee jerking’, that Obama has yet to utter ONE WORD of this speech, and you are already misquoting it. This speech hasn’t even happened, yet you think you know enough about it to dispute it or argue against it? HA! That is seriously over reaching your capacity to judge clearly based on evidence. Good luck with that too.

  • 12stepgolf

    You did not read what I wrote. It wasn’t the speech he was going to give it was the lesson plan put out by the Education Department. I said nothing of his speech, which I understand to be a very good speech about staying in school and study hard. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is the Education Dept. that started this controversy and nothing else.
    Now is that clear enough, or are you going to find something between the lines that isn’t there?

  • Janis Alanis

    Please tell me exactly what it is about the Education Dept’s agenda that you specifically do not like. And please, to circumvent any misunderstanding, state your sources of information. That way I can see the data from which you base this opinion. Do you have a copy of this ‘agenda’? Is it available to the public? If not, how are you privy to it?
    And you totally contradict yourself with these posts.

    ““How can I help the president with his agenda?”. It has nothing to with telling the kids to stay in school and study hard.”
    “I understand to be a very good speech about staying in school and study hard.”
    I am confused at what exactly you are angry about. Please clarify.

    Are you a teacher? Are you a kid? What is your role in this? That is to say, why does this matter to you or bother you specifically?
    I would appreciate any clarification you might provide.
    Thanks.
    Please check out this link, and then tell me what you think:
    http://albanyherald.com/Main.asp?SectionID=5&SubSectionID=33&ArticleID=6462
    You will be surprised at how familiar this uproar is, and just how hypocritical both Dem and Pubs are…

  • Janis Alanis

    And i would like to add, that my original post was reflective of the stirring around the speech, not the Lesson Plan, so not sure how it became about that, but I will follow you and we can dispatch with this as well.
    But if this brouhaha is about the lesson plan, and not the speech, and the conservatives who are keeping their kids from school to avoid watching a lifetime opportunity, a “great speech” that has nothing to do with the ‘agenda’, then I am still unsure why you are mad, or anyone else.
    If you all are mad about the Lesson plan, home school your kids. If you are mad about the speech, then you are setting your kids up for failure, plain and simple by shielding them from inspiration and degrading this simple task. It will make them think it is ok to blind themselves from others whose opinions may or may not be in agreement, and that is unhealthy and unrealistic.
    This speech is meant to do nothing but encourage, and again, all of this hullabaloo is wasted breath, time and money, and massively political on the part of conservatives.
    What is it? Principle? Do you want kids to succeed with education? Or Political? Is it more important to point fingers and call names?
    I am not a Republican or a Democrat, but I remember fondly when Reagan addressed us as youth. I was proud and pleased to have the leader of the free world address me. And that is what its all about. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • 12stepgolf

    Critics got particularly upset about the lesson plans created to accompany the speech. The administration originally recommended that students “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” The White House revised the plans Wednesday to suggest students “write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals.”….By Alicia P.Q. Wittmeyer
    The Virginian-Pilot
    © September 4, 2009

    The so-called “back to school” speech has Americans huffing and puffing, and others asking “Why is this even an issue?” When the President first announced he would be speaking to children directly in classrooms, The U.S. Department of Education originally asked children to “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President” after watching the nationally televised speech. They’ve since chanced their tune, asking students to “write about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals.”

    According to the White House Blog (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/), the President’s speech will “urge students to take personal responsibility for their own education, to set goals, and to not only stay in school but make the most of it.” To many Americans, sounds like the President is encouraging education. So why is the POTUS receiving so much flack? If you dig far back into your memory bank you may recall sitting in a classroom as a child watching another President delivering a televised speech. It was back in 1991. President George H.W. Bush delivered a speech from a school that was broadcast nationwide. The idea of this “speech” was heavily criticized by Democrats at the time.
    Chicago Tribune
    Nineveh Dinha Anchor/Reporter
    1:35 p.m. CDT, September 4, 2009

    I am sure I could find more-read how the Dems were upset in 1991 about GHWB.

    Then there was that video about “I pledge allegiance to Barack Obama” which really lit the fire.
    I won’t pledge allegiance to any president any where at any time, not Lincoln or Washington not even Ike.

    • Janis Alanis

      Ok. So I still don’t see what the issue is here. If the DOE asked for the letters, why is there a growing boycott of the speech? The picture you paint is that these are two separate issues. Is the uproar over the actions of the DOE or over the speech?
      What is it that the liberal left has done here? Please tell me what the issue is?

      You said ‘they’ were knee jerking. How so? Please enlighten me.

  • 12stepgolf

    You know I am not upset, I have no children never have and never will.
    I just think it is silly that there is a sometimes a double standard.
    I am much older than you and didn’t have the luxury of being wired to see any president give a speech to anyone in any school, and would not have any problem listening to any one of them, way back then.
    The left doesn’t like it when it is a Rep. the right doesn’t like it with a lefty.
    I would have waited until after the day was over to see what I liked or disliked about it. Then I could have made some point.
    When all the ranting and raving and some vile and vicious things were being promoted the last 8 years it was ok, right? Well he deserved it, right? So now there are those who want to talk about what they find offensive and they are just supposed to shut-up, right? These people have rights just like everyone else, right or wrong. There are plenty on the other side that do the same. A bird needs both wings to fly.
    You are much to young to know what went on in the 60’s/70’s and the agenda of the very far leftists.
    We all need to be vigilante and pay attention, and it is great that everyone is finally engaged in the American way and their 1st Amendment rights.

  • Janis Alanis

    “We all need to be vigilante and pay attention, and it is great that everyone is finally engaged in the American way and their 1st Amendment rights.”
    AMEN! Hallelujah!

    We agree! And I am glad to hear you say what you said.
    I find most (almost all) politicians in general to be disingenuous liars and thieves. This is why i do this blog, for the most part anyway.
    We the American people are so quick to get up in arms about—what i ask?
    That article i posted for you about ’91 should prove that i lean neither right nor left but instead my goal is to find a balance in the middle.
    The truth is, we have been screwed by both the left and the right, for freakin ever.
    I am sick of all their shit, personally.
    But when I read the headlines that Parents are ENRAGED over a speech, I wonder where their righteous indignation has been during the last 8 years, 16 years, 20 years, etc.
    Over a speech? We are in two costly wars for what i do not know anymore. ANd the public gets up in arms over a speech? It was ridiculous when Dems did it in ’91, and it is ridiculous now.
    There are indeed, bigger fish to fry, if you know what I am saying.
    It is all distraction tactics to keep ire in the air. BAH!
    Fix the economy jerks, bring home my cousins from the Middle East, insure my grandmother.
    Stuff like that.
    Thank you for coming back. Thank you for your input.
    I really appreciate other’s pov.
    my best,
    gypsy

  • Janis Alanis

    also, please know…this is not about freedom of speech. if it is, then it has become waaaaaay convoluted.
    people can complain, aaaaaaaaaaaaaallll they want. that is their freedom.
    and obama or bush can speak to kids, you see, they get those rights too.
    but to make a boycott, over this????
    telling your kids that its okay to stay home from school when the president is urging them to success??? wth?
    no make sense. duhrr.

    regardless, my aim is to find the reasoning behind the actions. and when push comes to shove,

    convolution.

    this still, does not make sense to me. still.

    the last eight years, i prayed to wake up from a terrible nightmare, my fellow country men said to me, suck it up, he’s your president too. now, the tables are turned, and everyone is behaving the EXACT way they hated being treated by those formally in charge.
    ug, the hypocrisy is nauseating.
    the only way to prevent that is to start thinking! and not mindlessly following and repeating.
    this act is tired. its like they just changed roles but are using the same scripts. wake up!!!!! politicos are taking us for a ride. 90210 is better written that this crap.
    we need to get our shit together. its embarrassing.

  • 12stepgolf

    You are right about everyone taking all of us for a ride. That is what ticks me off too. Both sides have their share of idiot. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but sometimes one can wonder about all the diversions they put in our way to just distract us from what they are ALL really doing.
    It is the old “boys and now girls” club. They stick together and rape and pillage the country and no one gets ticked at what they are doing in congress. They are the elitists, the power addicted and pi$$ on us.
    From corporate welfare to healthcare welfare. It all isn’t good. The menage a trois of Big Business and Big Government and Big Unions have and are destroying us.
    Everybody is supposed to choose sides and then aim and fire. To big to fail then they were to big to begin with. Buy the toxic assets but not really, “we have control over all this money” intoxication.
    There are really some things to really get ticked at.
    Nobody listens to any of us.
    I do hate to toot a horn but that is what my book addresses, all the power addicts and how to rid ourselves of them.

  • Janis Alanis

    I am listening to you, and you are listening to me. That is a start. Next, we ask, now that we found each other, let us use reason to figure out how to take the aholes down.
    I have always found that integrity in thought and pursuit is the only viable option humans have to relieve us from this quagmire we created. We need to hold these guys and gals accountable.
    We start by having dialogue.
    I appreciate your input. Now what do we do to get people to think?
    Ah, this is the ultimate task. Keep swimming. Just keep swimming.

  • 12stepgolf

    Wish I had answers. I have struggled trying to get people to think about what they are saying with benign issues.
    I may not always, hopefully I do, use the correct verbiage all the time, but I do try to be aware of what I am saying. I care because I am hearing it also.
    I have noticed that not all know or understand the definition of words. They use them wrongly to describe things that have nothing to do with the subject. Forgive us who ask “is this what you mean?” It is taken as such an insult and there is that knee jerk reaction again.
    I am a very strong believer in the power of suggestion.
    That is why advertising is so important, and if we are just letting the words go through us without listening to what people are saying we will come up with the sub-conscious doing what ever it wants to do and we won’t know why. A sound bite here and a sound bite there and it all adds up to trouble. It is all about everyone not knowing what the other is truly saying and being interpreted through faulty filters.
    That is one reason I try to pay attention to what I am saying, I may not always be successful, but I do try.
    Have you ever asked someone “do you know what you just said”, because it made no logical sense at all?

  • 12stepgolf

    Read the speech, rather innocuous.
    Only trouble-the “social justice” issues that should not be an issue if we have been working on them for 50 years. That is what I mean about power of suggestion. I suggest we have social injustice and everyone believes it.
    Wasn’t crazy about the last paragraph either. Can’t remember exactly why it rubbed me the wrong way. I was so focused on his cadence as I was reading. Oh, it was “I’m working hard to fix up your classrooms and get you the books, equipment and computers you need to help you learn”, would have been better to keep himself out and put “everyone” wants you to succeed and is working for that to happen. Too much like the old Clinton thing “I worked so hard on……”, that is what you get paid for.
    Reminds when I was a township trustee and one of the board members was saying to a voter, “but that is really hard”, I turned to him and said “that is what they elected us for, to do the hard stuff, and not complain about it”.
    I guess all we can do is throw our heads back and laugh and stop caring about anything. We all are going to die anyway, someday, so why do we care about anything anyway?
    ps) the blog I wrote today is about a different blogster, not you.

  • Janis Alanis

    That is why advertising is so important, and if we are just letting the words go through us without listening to what people are saying we will come up with the sub-conscious doing what ever it wants to do and we won’t know why.

    TRUE!!! This is why you should kill your tv. I take my information in print only. And even then I am leery about what to believe.
    I think advertising is a plague on the universal consciousness. The BIG Pharma advertises pills and suddenly everyone is sick. We need to be as careful what we put in our minds as we do with what we put in our bodies!

    I have not read the speech yet, I will get back to you on that. But I don’t need a speech or the president to tell me our schools and children are in trouble. I have many teacher friends and I taught some. Schools and kids need help desperately.
    Still looking for solutions…the kids are what its all about.
    gypsy

  • 12stepgolf

    You read my mind-I feel the same way about those commercials.
    I hate to say this too-all the cancer commercials also have made everybody sicker.
    There is definitely some correlation.

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